What Is Bajiquan? Why I Still Recommend It After 8 Years of Training

  After more than eight years of practicing Ba ji quan, attending seminars, training with different people, and feeling its power firsthand, I still describe it in very simple terms, Baji quan 八极拳( Eight Extreme fist) fast, direct, explosive, and remarkably powerful at close range. I have practiced other Chinese martial arts, but Bajiquan has always felt different to me. It does not need a large amount of space to express power, and when the body mechanics begin to work correctly, the force can arrive much faster than people expect.

  My interest in Bajiquan, however, started long before I understood any of that. It began when I was a child watching martial arts movies. Like many kids growing up around Chinese martial arts culture, I did not know the difference between real training and movie choreography. I only knew that certain movements looked different. Some martial arts appeared light, flowing, or acrobatic. Bajiquan looked as though someone had suddenly driven his entire body through another person.

  That image stayed with me.

  Years later, when I actually began training Bajiquan, I discovered that the movies had exaggerated plenty of things—as movies always do—but they had captured one part surprisingly well: Bajiquan has a very distinctive sense of forward intention.

The Bajiquan I Imagined as a Child Was Not the Bajiquan I Eventually Trained

  As a child, I thought power meant big movement. A huge swing looked powerful. A dramatic kick looked powerful. Someone flying backward across a movie set definitely looked powerful. Once I began practicing traditional martial arts seriously, that definition started to change.

  Bajiquan taught me that some of the strongest-feeling movements can be very short.

  You may not see a giant wind-up. Sometimes the distance between the beginning and the release is surprisingly small. The legs, hips, waist, torso, shoulder and arm have to organize together, and when they do, what looks like a short movement can feel very heavy.

  That is one reason I personally consider Bajiquan one of the most powerful Chinese martial arts I have practiced. I want to emphasize personally, because saying one martial art is objectively “the strongest” is almost meaningless. The practitioner, teacher, training quality, conditioning, timing and situation matter far more than the name of the style.

  But if someone asks me what Bajiquan feels like after eight-plus years of practice, my answer is still the same: fast and explosive.

  China’s national intangible cultural heritage documentation describes Bajiquan as emphasizing coordinated whole-body movement, clear rhythm, strong explosive force and practical fighting principles. The same official description characterizes its movement as rapid and forceful while still requiring coordination between internal intent and external structure. That official language is much closer to what I have experienced in training than some of the exaggerated descriptions found online.

Eight Years Later, I Still Remember the First Time the Movement Felt “Connected”

  Beginning Bajiquan was not especially glamorous.

  There was stance work. Repetition. Footwork. Basic movements that seemed far simpler when the teacher demonstrated them than when I tried to reproduce them myself. At first I focused too much on the arm. I wanted the punch or elbow or shoulder movement to feel powerful, so naturally I tried to make the upper body work harder.

  That is usually the wrong direction.

  Over time, I started understanding why teachers kept correcting the feet, hips and body alignment even when I thought the problem was my hand. The hand was often only where the mistake became visible. The actual problem had begun much earlier in the movement.

  When Bajiquan starts to become connected, the sensation changes. Instead of one limb doing the work, the movement feels as though it starts from the ground and passes through the body as one event. That does not mean there is anything mystical happening. It is coordination, timing and structure developed through repetition.

  The Chinese intangible cultural heritage description of Bajiquan makes the same basic point: the art stresses coordination throughout the body and the relationship between intent, force and movement rather than treating the limbs as isolated striking tools.

  Reading that description after years of practice makes much more sense to me than it would have on my first day.

Why Bajiquan Feels So Fast

  People often associate martial arts speed with how quickly someone can move his hands. Bajiquan changed the way I think about speed.

  To me, its real speed comes from distance and intention.

  If a movement has to travel a long distance before becoming useful, the other person gets time to recognize it. Bajiquan spends a great deal of time working at closer ranges, where shoulders, elbows, forearms, hands and the whole body can become part of the action. Once the distance becomes shorter, movement that is mechanically efficient can arrive very quickly.

  That is also why Bajiquan can look almost abrupt.

  There may be very little visual warning between a relatively calm position and a sudden release of force. When an experienced practitioner demonstrates this correctly, the movement can look less dramatic than movie martial arts but feel much more substantial when you are standing nearby.

  This close-range, direct character is not merely modern marketing. Official descriptions of both Bajiquan generally and Mengcun Bajiquan emphasize rapid, forceful action and practical methods. The national heritage listing for Mengcun Bajiquan describes a large traditional curriculum that includes Bajiquan frames, Liu Da Kai, Ba Da Zhao and weapons training.

Seminars Changed the Way I Looked at My Own Training

  One reason I am glad I attended many Bajiquan seminars is that training with the same people every week can sometimes create a false sense of understanding.

  You become familiar with your teacher’s timing. You know how your training partners move. They know how you move. Eventually everyone adapts to everyone else, and certain mistakes become invisible because the whole group has become accustomed to them.

  A seminar changes that.

  You suddenly stand next to people with different builds, different habits and sometimes completely different Bajiquan lineages. One teacher emphasizes a detail that your regular teacher rarely discusses. Another person produces power in a way that looks slightly different but still follows recognizable principles.

  Those experiences made me less interested in arguing over whose Bajiquan was the “real” Bajiquan.

  Traditional Chinese martial arts are rarely as neat as internet lineage charts make them appear. Bajiquan itself has several important transmission communities, including Mengcun and other regional traditions. Official Chinese heritage records separately recognize Bajiquan traditions in different regions, which is one reminder that the art developed through more than one local transmission network.

  For me, seminars were valuable because they made the art bigger rather than smaller.

The Night Bajiquan Stopped Being Only Something I Practiced in Class

  There was one experience that changed my relationship with martial arts more than any seminar did.

  It happened late at night.

  I encountered a girl who clearly needed help. I am deliberately not going to turn this into a dramatic fighting story or describe every detail, because that is not the point. Real situations involving frightened people are not martial arts demonstrations, and there is nothing entertaining about someone feeling trapped or helpless in the middle of the night.

  What I remember most is how different everything felt from training.

  There was no warm-up. No instructor. No padded floor. Nobody announced that something was about to happen. There was simply a moment when I had to decide whether to walk away or help.

  I chose to help her.

  My Bajiquan training gave me confidence to position myself between her and the immediate problem, stay composed, and respond decisively when I needed to. I did not suddenly become a movie character, nor did I start thinking through a catalogue of Bajiquan techniques. If anything, the experience taught me the opposite lesson: when something real happens, you do not have time for choreography.

  The most valuable part of training was not remembering a beautiful sequence. It was being able to stay relatively calm while my body did something familiar under pressure.

  Fortunately, the situation ended without becoming something worse.

  Afterward, I thought about that night for a long time. Martial arts students spend endless hours asking whether a technique “works.” But when another person’s safety is involved, the better question may be whether your training helps you make a responsible decision, control yourself and avoid making a dangerous situation even worse.

  That night did not make me believe Bajiquan was invincible.

  It made me respect training more seriously.

What Bajiquan Movies Got Right—and Wrong

  When I look back at the movies I watched as a child, I smile at how much influence they had on me.

  They made traditional Chinese martial arts feel enormous. Masters seemed capable of impossible things. A single movement could send someone across a room. Every teacher possessed a secret technique. Every fight proved which style was superior.

  Real training is much quieter.

  Nobody gives you explosive power because you learned the name of a form. Nobody becomes dangerous after attending three classes. Eight years can pass and you still find basic details that need correcting.

  But the movies were not completely wrong about Bajiquan.

  They recognized its personality.

  Bajiquan has an assertiveness that is visually difficult to mistake. Its explosive releases, close-range body methods and sudden forward movement make it naturally attractive to filmmakers and martial arts fans.

  The difference is that real power is built through boring things movies almost never show: stance correction, repeating the same movement hundreds of times, listening to a teacher tell you that your hip is wrong again, and discovering that the movement you thought you had understood three years ago still has another layer.

What Is Bajiquan, Actually?

  If you have never practiced it, the simplest answer is this: Bajiquan is a traditional Chinese martial art known for powerful whole-body movement, explosive force and close-range fighting methods.

  Its Chinese name is 八极拳, commonly written in English as Bajiquan or Baji Quan.

  Bajiquan has a substantial traditional curriculum rather than being only a collection of hard strikes. Chinese heritage documentation records systems of forms, partner practice and weapons, with traditional material including Bajiquan frames, Liu Da Kai, Ba Da Zhao and spear-related training.

  Historically, I would be more careful than the old version of this article was. The current Chenstyle page states that Bajiquan developed during the Ming Dynasty and then immediately centers Wu Zhong, which compresses several different traditions into one overly certain story. China’s official intangible cultural heritage record gives the safer formulation that Bajiquan has circulated since the late Ming period and has more than 350 years of documented tradition.

  Different Bajiquan communities preserve different lineage narratives, so I no longer think an introductory article needs to pretend that every historical question has one universally accepted answer.

Is Bajiquan Really Powerful?

  After eight years, I would answer yes—but not for the reason many beginners imagine.

  Bajiquan is not powerful because somebody named an elbow technique or because old stories describe famous fighters. It is powerful when the practitioner learns to coordinate the body so that movement arrives together rather than piece by piece.

  That takes time.

  A beginner can imitate the external shape of an explosive movement almost immediately. Developing the structure, balance, timing and conditioning underneath that movement is a much longer process.

  This is why demonstrations can be misleading. Two people may perform what appears to be the same motion, yet the physical result can feel completely different.

  To me, Bajiquan’s greatest strength is that it forces you to understand this difference. The movements are direct enough that poor coordination is difficult to hide. Either the body connects or it doesn’t.

Is Bajiquan Better Than Tai Chi, Wing Chun or Boxing?

  I would remove the old article’s attempt to declare simple winners and losers.

  After training martial arts for years, those comparisons feel increasingly artificial to me.

  A good boxer is dangerous because he boxes well. A skilled Wing Chun practitioner understands his system at a level a beginner does not. Tai Chi practiced as a serious martial art has much more depth than the stereotypical slow exercise people often imagine.

  Bajiquan has qualities I personally love: explosiveness, forward pressure, whole-body force and close-range methods. Those qualities suit me.

  That does not make every Bajiquan student superior to every practitioner of another system.

  Styles provide tools. People develop skill.

Why I Still Recommend Bajiquan

  More than eight years after I started practicing, I still recommend Bajiquan enthusiastically, especially to someone interested in traditional Chinese martial arts but looking for something physically direct and energetic.

  It teaches you to use more than your arms. It makes you pay attention to your feet, waist, torso and timing. It forces you to confront tension and bad posture because explosive movement magnifies those mistakes. It can also be physically demanding enough that training feels like training rather than simply collecting beautiful movements.

  Most importantly for me, Bajiquan never lost the personality that attracted me when I was young.

  It still feels decisive.

  The difference is that after years of practice I understand that decisiveness is not the same thing as aggression. A responsible martial artist should be harder to provoke, not easier. The night I helped that girl reinforced that lesson more strongly than any movie or seminar ever could.

  Having the ability to respond does not mean looking for opportunities to use it.

  It means hoping you never need to.

Eight Years In, I Am Still Learning

  Sometimes people ask how long it takes to “learn” a martial art.

  Eight years sounds like a long time until you practice for eight years.

  Then it suddenly feels quite short.

  I have attended seminars, repeated forms countless times, trained techniques with different partners and experienced at least one night when martial arts stopped being theoretical. Yet I still do not feel finished with Bajiquan.

  That is probably another reason I recommend it.

  The first attraction is easy to understand: Bajiquan looks powerful.

  The second attraction takes longer: you begin to understand why it can be powerful.

  And then comes the part that may take the rest of your life—learning how to produce that power more efficiently, control it better, and understand when not to use it.

  The martial arts movies I watched as a child made me want to learn Bajiquan.

  More than eight years of actual training gave me reasons to stay.

Mark Cheng

Mark was born in the late 1970s in Big Yellow Village, near Chen Village, one of the best-known places associated with traditional Tai Chi. Growing up in this environment gave him early exposure to Chinese martial arts, and he has now practiced Tai Chi and other traditional Chinese martial arts for more than 40 years, including extensive training in Baji Quan. Over the decades, Mark has traveled around the world to train, study, and attend seminars and classes with respected masters and senior practitioners. His martial arts journey has also taken him into competition, where he has earned multiple gold medals, as well as into judging, serving as a judge at numerous martial arts competitions. Mark’s writing combines more than four decades of hands-on training with lessons learned from seminars, personal exchanges and interviews with experienced practitioners, competition experience, and research into Chinese-language martial arts sources. His goal is to explain traditional Chinese martial arts from the perspective of someone who has practiced them for most of his life—not simply studied them from books.

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